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Starward commented on: Unforgiven Rapture by patriciajj 1 year 36 weeks ago
I want to extend my comment: I want to extend my comment by just a bit, beginning with an extended metaphor from my past.  For the first fourteen years of my life, my parents' house was on the edge of a pine tree forest.  So close to the edge of it that I could reach over the chain link fence and touch the living branches of an ancient pine tree.  The fragrance, all year around, was wonderful.  On the north edge of the pine tree forest, the Pennsylvania railroad came through, at least four trains a day.     But to me, even though we lived with this beauty daily, the best version of it was the Christmas Tree my parents put up and decorated on the day after Thanksgiving (and when my widowed grandmother began attending our Thanksgiving dinner, they moved the tree to Thanksgiving afternoon).  The tree would be thickly decorated with bulbs, lights, silver rope, and icicles.  And, sometimes, beneath it, a Lionel electric train rushed around the base on an unrealistic track of three rails.  The odor when the locomotive motor became warm was one I have always associated with Christmas.  To my young mind, this was more beautiful than the realistic forest and rail tracks just beyond our back yard.    I said all that to say this.  Patricia's art is very much like that situation from my early years.  She takes natural details, adorns them in her language, and gives us a perspective that the reader might not have had prior to the reading.  For example, focusing on that final stanza which continues to astound me, I have felt renewed in the mornings; I have walked among trees, and I have breathed, and have been one of the living.  But Patricia's poetry in this stanza has also reminded me of the Egyptian sun being born anew each day; and of the account of our first parents in Eden.  These had been separate items of which I was aware---but they had not been decorated with Patricia's words and phrases; so that, while aware of them (the Lord has allowed me to read about ancient Egypt for fifty-eight years, beginning with an account of the discovery of Tutankhamun's tomb), they did not come together for me until this poem brought them together.  Patricia's poetry is not ostentatiously allusive, in the manner, say, of Milton and Pope, and of Eliot in The Waste Land.  Because she sets, as her Poetry's venue, the whole Cosmos, she can be very subtle in her allusiveness.     One can read any kind of poem casually.  When I took a course on epics during my sophomore undergrad year, I was a little shocked at how casually some of my peers read Vergil's Aeneid.  But if a reader brings only a casual reading to Patricia's poetry, the loss will be that reader's, not hers.  I will add something here that I read back in 1978, in Diane Wakoski's collection of poems, The Magellanic Clouds.  She wrote a prefatory essay, ostensibly about Wallace Stevens' poem, "Peter Quince At The Clavier," but, really, was about her poems.  She said that the point of an exact reading of a poem, or poems, is that you should fine the internal connetions.  To go back to my example from college, we should have noticed Vergil's connection of his epic to the Homeric mythos, to the poetic beliefs of Callimachus, and to his own contemporaries like Catullus.  That is a full reading of the poem; or, to borrow a phrase from the Possum, a reading with gusto.  Patricia's poetry must be read with gusto, and the internal connections (of her poems with themselves, and of her poems with the Western Canon) in order to function as she intended them to function.  I remember either reading or hearing about some rather casual student who wondered how Pop Stevens could write poetry about something so mundane as insurance.  (Stevens did not).  That is a reading lacking in so much gusto that I can hardly describe its stupidity.   Poets of Patricia's quality and achievement must be given a reading with gusto; no other reading can yield the full blossoming of the poem.   
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Starward commented on: Unforgiven Rapture by patriciajj 1 year 36 weeks ago
Thank you.  My comments take: Thank you.  My comments take inspiration from your poems.  Plus, when commenting, I often feel like Matthew Henson putting that iron spike into the ice at the North Pole.
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patriciajj commented on: Unforgiven Rapture by patriciajj 1 year 36 weeks ago
I'm always deeply moved and: I'm always deeply moved and astonished by the precision, depth, magnificence and intricacy of your comments, and not just the ones you leave on my posts, but on any post that has the honor of your attention. I can't even scratch the surface of my gratitude with mortal language. Peace and every blessing. 
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patriciajj commented on: Unforgiven Rapture by patriciajj 1 year 36 weeks ago
Thank you for your: Thank you for your metaphorically marvelous reflections. I truly value your opinion and your insightful, encouraging comments mean so much. Deepest gratitude. 
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Starward commented on: Unforgiven Rapture by patriciajj 1 year 36 weeks ago
I attempted to post a comment: I attempted to post a comment earlier, but due to my stupid laptop's glitching, everything I wrote was lost, so I am going to try to reproduce it here, and I apologize in advance if it is not exactly the same.  I think I have combed out all the typos, but I make no guarantee.    The poem's center of gravity is the stanza that begins "In truth . . ." and this is not just a poetic statement that she makes, it is also a philosophical and metaphysical statement that approaches theology.  Only the greatest of Poets do this:  Vergil, Old Possum Eliot, and Pop Stevens.  I have said, in earlier comments, that, at the banquet table where those Poets are seated, Patriciajj has a standing invitation and reservation.  She may even play Euchre with them (here's a hint:  add the joker as the supreme bauer, that can overthrow the other two, to make the play more exciting, and that also gives the cat's hand a full compliment of cards).  To that group, I would also add Callimachus, the director of the great Library in Ptolemaic Alexandria, said to have been appointed to that position by its founder, Ptolemy II.  Callimachus was a Poet of Aetia---the poetic explanation of the beginnings of things:  the cosmos, cities and wars, games of Euchre and the cats' hands (no, just kidding there).  In this poem, Patricia gives us an Aetia of how something---an attitude, a perspective, a metaphysical awareness---begins; and she defines that in the final stanza, and it is on this stanza that I would like to concentrate this comment.       She speaks of the morning of birth; but it is not her birth as an infant of which she writes.  Long before Ptolemy and Callimachus (who were ethnic Greeks resident in Egypt), the ancient Egyptians believed that the sun was reborn each morning.  But they were also sensible enough to realize that the sun was not reborn as a newborn star each morning:  the sun already knew what path to follow, and for how long to stay in the sky.  The sun was born into the newness of the day; and, in this final stanza of the poem, Patricia's soul enters the newness of the day, which is a rebirth of sorts, the same process as the Egyptian sun.      But then, she swerves beyond ancient Egypt, and goes back to Eden itself, and look how her lines in that stanza resonate.  Eden was a garden, and we know there were trees thriving there.  God breathed into Adam and Eve the breath of life and, according to Moses' theology, that made them living souls.  And what did they do then?  They lived.  Even after they fouled up, they lived.  This final stanza reiterates that process in three short lines---in the garden of the trees, the breath of life enables a living soul to live.         This is one of the aspects of Patricia's poetry that I love the best and, frankly, admire the most.  Her lines are mot restricted to the here and now; or her location in geography or chronology.  She can range throughout recorded time---this one stanza has helped us revisit ancient Egypt, and then further back to Eden; and she presents this with the style of the Great Poets . . . in this case, Callimachus.  Her poems' structures are different than his, and I don't think she runs a library, but her metaphysical approach is in the same field and venue as his, and that is a might fine place to be.    One of my life's frustrations has been that, although I was taught by some very fine scholars about Poetry, the poems that the taught were written by Poets already deceased.  Sure, I knew how Vergil wrote his epic; I had read "my girl" Mary Shelley's journal about her struggles with Frankenstein; and I had read Valerie Eliot's amazing transcript of the original Waste Land manuscripts, which allowed me to watch a poem gathering itself together over the course of several years.  But none of this was in real time.  But then, almost three years ago, shortly after I had been released from weeks and weeks in the hospital, random browsing brought me to Patricia's poems ("Gates of Orion," "Council of Stars")---and, as I began to delve into her gallery on PostPoems, I knew that, for the first time, I would now see---as an ongoing process---the same functions that I had spent years studying.   I have not been disappointed; not for one fraction of one second.  I have described Patricia's poetry as Cosmic.  She does not limit her perspective to the mundane local.  Like Dante, she takes the whole cosmos as her poetic venue.  Frankly, I don't want to live to see her final poem, because I don't want to see the process ever end.  I am content to read her final poem in Heaven, and I certainly believe that the Heavenly library receives each new poem that she constructs.  I won't live to see the PhD dissertations that will be written about her Poetry, either; but, unlike those future grad students, I have a ringside seat to the ongoing process of her Poetry's expansion, and, for once, they can envy me.  Their understanding will be far more refined than mine, because they will know the whole completed work.    But I, and all of you who read her poems, have the thrill---the privilege---the blessing of watching the poems assemble right before our amazed and astounded eyes; and, more than that, our souls are among the first souls to whom her Poetry speaks.  That's a mighty fine time and place to be, and I, for one, a, grateful to her, to the Cosmos of which she writes so poetically and majestically, and to God, Whose wonders she gathers into her poems to remind us of just where we live, and who we are.            
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LittleLennonGurl commented on: Why Is This Reality by LittleLennonGurl 1 year 36 weeks ago
Bottom Line: It is both the overwhelming availability of as well as the over obsession with guns that have brought us to the gun problems we face today. Imagine if we actually ever actually approached the problem logically as a country instead of as a country so paranoid it could never imagine surviving without most people owning guns.
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crypticbard commented on: Unforgiven Rapture by patriciajj 1 year 36 weeks ago
For the experience and the: For the experience and the complete journey, that is what this poem brings. And for forks and avenues of thought and imagination bringing even more- as an elegant feline moving through the foliage, graceful, elegant and strong.
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Starward commented on: after the winter comes the spring by ewbonitz 1 year 36 weeks ago
In the Autumn of 1976, during: In the Autumn of 1976, during my first collegiate term, I heard what was then a new song, just released, Frampton's "Baby, I Love Your Way."  At that time, it was given AM radio play in a truncated version; and so was the 45 RPM that my parents purchased for me and brought up to my dorm room.  During the holiday break, I asked my parents for the album for Christmas, and, on Christmas Day, I heard the song with the exquisitely poetic second stanza intact---and, hearing it for the first time, in the privacy of my bedroom with my headphones on and my parents' incessant chatter momentarily shut out, I was so amazed by the that stanza that I simply sat staring at the wall, mouth hanging open, more amazed at this song than ever I had been by any other music of that kind.  Since then, forty-six years, that song has been my favorite secular music.  (Not even the first movement of Dvorak's Ninth Symphony, "From The New World," comes near to it.)    I said all that to say this, and to give you enough background so that you know the authenticity of this statement:  Your poem, more than any other I can remember reading, reminds me of Frampton's "Baby, I Love . . ."  And reading this, I again had that feeling of amazement.  Is it the language?  The strong imagery?  The contours of the lines?  Frankly, I don't need to know, because looking "under the hood" of the poem, so to speak, would trivialize its impact on me.  I think it was Vladimir Nabakov, himself an astute lepidopterist, who spoke of the tragedy of catching and then gassing a butterfly so that one can dissect its parts and view them under a microscope.  That will afford a good view of the anatomy, but the butterfly will never fly again, or visit a flower, or sip nectar.  I will not subject myself to losing the effect of your poem in order to understand how that effect is achieved.      In the twenty-one years of my membership at PostPoems, I have been tremendously blessed and privileged to read some poems that are incredible masterpieces of poetic language.  This poem, I gladly say here and now, is one of those. 
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patriciajj commented on: ever closer they rumble by arqios 1 year 36 weeks ago
You could read a shopping: You could read a shopping list and it would sound elegant, so the listening experience was otherworldly in its excellence. But savoring the words in print had its own transcendental rapture and ability to electrify.   "the world indeed is too much with us"   Wow! That's a line to die for. But then, so is the next line and the next . . . one can be absolutely submerged in the artistry and the feel of this.    You are The Bard!
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crypticbard commented on: after the winter comes the spring by ewbonitz 1 year 36 weeks ago
It seems fitting to come back: It seems fitting to come back here and start experiencing the spectrum of words as they issue from mind and heart. And as we go through the latter part of winter and the hankering for spring rising, this being a corresponding work of verse. To be uplifted, inspired and encouraged is such a blessing.
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patriciajj commented on: Heron Clan January 29, 2023 Grandkid po by djtj 1 year 36 weeks ago
Both are precious and: Both are precious and heart-tugging in different ways.    The first is a searing casualty of our unsparing reality: a child facing adult-sized pain and the second, some comic relief penned in your witty, signature style that leaves one wanting to laugh and groan at the same time. Not too many people could pull it off with such innate skill, but you turn the everyday into sensitive and cunning art.   Another successful Heron Clan!   
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crypticbard commented on: beatitude by ewbonitz 1 year 36 weeks ago
There is quite a revelation: There is quite a revelation in godly sorrow which is a mourning that is characterised by humility and a turning back, an inward spiritual u-turn, so to speak. There is such a beautiful and functional truth about our choice for that glory that has been designed and purposed for us in the Saviour.
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crypticbard commented on: solitude ocean island: by ninjacoco 1 year 36 weeks ago
The feeling of isolated bliss: The feeling of isolated bliss on an ocean island is quite an experience. And to have music to fill the air adds to it an ambient atmosphere.
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ewbonitz commented on: Dear Little Evan, #5 by ewbonitz 1 year 36 weeks ago
Starward, thank you for your: Starward, thank you for your encouragement. Your words have helped me make this project my chief focus in the days weeks and months to come. I've struggled with so many different things in my life and want for them to be redeemed into something that has made all the years of pain worth it. What the enemy means for evil, God has purposed for good.   And we know that all things work together for good, to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. - Romans 8:28
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Starward commented on: I'm At Peace My Friend by williamjroneyiii 1 year 36 weeks ago
Did I misunderstand: Did I misunderstand something?  I thought our conversations had been about Christian belief; but this poem suggests a kind of reincarnation.  Human beings are the pinnacle of God's creation; they are the only created beings said to be "made in His image."  How, then, would He allow you to "return' as something less than what you were when you began?  I guess I am not understanding the belief position from which you are writing.
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