Aesthetic Atheism .... ..... (this not to offend but rather to open a dialogue)

If I believe we are all of God
What does that make me?
If I believe a man who walked the earth 2000+ years ago
What does that make me?
If I believe in the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law
What does that make me?
If I believe god created all religions
What does that make me?
If I believe everything was made by god who willed it's self to live
What does that make me?
If I have felt forgiveness and peace in a holy place
What does that make me?
If I believe that we can never be severed from god
What does that make me?
If I believe that the dark must exist and all part of god
What does that make me?
If i belive we were created in his own image and capable of good and bad and god is too
What does that make me?
If I believe god has the capacity for bad things like flooding the world an pillars of salt
What does that make me?
If I see ghosts of dead people
What does that make me?
What if I believe the we collectively are god each and everyone together semiconciously
What does that make me?
if I believe we are the everything the all spark not one thing left out
what does that make me?
If i believe we are more than a fluke or just transferred energy
If I believe we are all god incarnate, angels ghosts and other kinds
What does that make us?
Hypocrites?

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nice

Well said...Amen.


TRIZ

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prayers??

The concept of prayers is just illogical to me. It is also against the real ruler of the universe ”physics” that you can be all knowing, all loving, and always present. If prayers work, what happened in Aushwitz? Im sure there were a few hundred thousand prayers beaming out of that roof. Broken down, you cannot create an angel, the being all knowing, he turns bad and spends eternity tempting people.!! First off, Bible says he condemned Lucifer, not give him his own office space with heat. Second, u knew he would cause all that pain n suffering. Third, YOU FUCKIN CREATED HIM!!!! Humans have always been afraid of the ”unknown”, (hence the creation of NASA ) Death is the ultimate unknown. Religion is just an insurance policy...


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Yeah religion isnt for some

But you can't explain consciousness and thought to the level you have as a bio organic fluke. I didn't create the devil I didn't create god and if physics is the molecular reaction that started the world off then that's your god god means the source of life and yes I can understand the idea of a fairy tale epic story as frustrating, but then legends have the same. The is the moment when a thing comes to life that definable moment between life and death that scientists just can not explain. That which is undefined has a label the creator. But in the beginning we either exist or we don't but where did the universe come from? You have just as many questions as I do but the difference is I have a soft place to fall oh by the way because I don't judge and believe in freedom of expression I'm not going to assume you are yelling at us like some sort of idiots and will prefer to see it as emphasis on your point :) because this is a grown up discussion and I definately see merit in and respect your ideas. Yes we need to expand this discussion because I am not sure where I fit with my psychic abilities and what the other world tells me and the other energies say I'd like to think I'm not crazy. But then I might be hey? I might have to come to terms with that. But it's not a handicap by any means. It's hard to explain the metaphysical to a person with no spirituality and how do we agree what's right or wrong? Screwing someone over doesn't feel right and helping someone out does for me. We have always known there was something else amongst us, every religion recorded and there are many, many all point to this, even Aristotle who has very interesting ideas some even agnostic to the point of atheism. But he returns to the spirtual in later theories. He even discounts the gods of the ancients. Now go to to the magic or miraculous number 13 depending on which side of the coin you choose, many religions heck nearly all have some similar ideas, Hercules, Tripitaka, Christ, Thor, they all have the elevation theory, god to man to god again through redemption. 12 apostles and Christ Zeus and twelve demigods, then there's the trinity it repeats in many things but I suppose that could be attributed to science eg man, woman, hermaphrodite, and sexual orientations... Science can only go so far and religion requires a huge leap of faith but, which is more beneficial to mankind? Which one is more violent? Dumping waste cutting down trees wastefulness, testing... I put my money on god because I find comforting my imperfections being and being loved no matter what. In his eyes I am worth saving and so are you, science on the other hand is a much crueler master...


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