I remember you,
relentless oaks,
still holding up
Armageddon
in the West
and a moaning gray
hereafter
in the East.
I came back from the
land of questions,
stitched from chaos,
where everything waits,
or at least tries
for a moment,
to step out of the
dazzling loop of
existence.
I thought you could
show me the door
to the unmanifest,
to see if I could find
that blissful nothingness
they spoke of,
but even solitude, it seems,
is crowded.
Birds cleanse
the air with audible stars
till the ancient
ones appear:
a herd of lights,
the slowest glass stallions,
gleaming like first love
in their distant rebellion,
and more alive than
any human—
one thing I can count on
to never leave.
Just an eternity past sundown,
just a few steps past silence . . .
only one thought between
the void and
All That Is.
Leave me alone now.
I'm learning to breathe.
Patricia Joan Jones
Such an incredible way with
Such an incredible way with words. Un manifest... powerful...
Don't let any one shake your dream stars from your eyes, lest your soul Come away with them! -SS
"Well, it's love, but not as we know it."
Can't thank you enough for
Can't thank you enough for your support, dear poet.
'I came back from
'I came back from the
land of questions,
stitched from chaos,'
wonderful wonderful
'a herd of lights'
creative delight
Baba Hari Das said 'silence brings siddhis'
(for those who like myself did not know
what siddhis were when I first heard the word,
they are spiritual powers
Such a sublime gift! Thank
Such a sublime gift! Thank you so much for interpreting exactly what I was trying to say. Your support means so much.
Nice
"I'm learning to breath." Good title. Read the writing aloud 2x. The second time, so much more. Just as it should.
~S~
Thank you for reading and
Thank you for reading and leaving such an encouraging comment. Means the world!
dialouge with silence reminds
dialouge with silence reminds me of a person sitting in silence reminessing over yesterday
drinking a glass of wine laid back with thoughts of someone that left
ron parrish
You certainly captured the
You certainly captured the feeling. Thank you for your beautiful interpretation.
you`re welcome
you`re welcome
ron parrish
I am not sure I can do this
I am not sure I can do this poem even the least justice in a comment, but I am going to try. The first thing I thought of was the allusive title---Dialogue With Silence which, in my mind, alludes to Simon and Garfunkel's great song, The Sound Of Silence. It also reminds me of some of those poems and tales that show us an altered perception of the Cosmos (I mean, verbally altered; the Poet picks certain details that, when included, also exclude others that are not picked): I am speaking of, for example, Lord Dunsany's tales, that create a cosmic background in a different reality than that to which we are accustomed. I think she is doing that same process in this poem. (I do hope this is making sense, because I am really groping my way here in the face of this most challenging poem . . . but also, this most worthwhile poem.) First, she gives us an East-West transit, or axis, and characterized by moaning gray and relentless oaks. She has returned from a land of questions---implying a journey of sorts. That land has been constructed out of chaos, and everything there is attempting to escape the loop of existence---which the Poet, with an insight perhaps not common to the land of questions, calls dazzling. Even in chaos, she finds a sort of grandeur; like her great peer, Wallace Stevens, in his poem, "Chaos In Motion And Not In Motion."
Apparently, while visiting the land of questions, she heard of a door of the unmanifest, which offers a solitude which will prove to be crowded.
Now I take it that the crowding at that door is not to be interpreted negatively, because we see some interesting and positive processes going on---and we are, I think, at the poem's gravitational center. We have, there, cleansing birds, audible stars, glass stallions, first love, a distant rebellion (which I take to be a rebellion against entropy), more vital and with more verve in them than what we now consider "human." That verve and vitality can also be counted on to stay, to establish itself, to be consistent.
Now she gives us another location, parallel to the East-West line at the poem's beginning: its timeline is eternity past sundown, and it is sited a few steps past silence. There, one thought stands between the void, and the All, which is what Poetry does. And then, the speaker of the poem tells the silence to back off, while the speaker learns to breathe---breath, the process of inspiration.
Like the greatst of Poets, of whom she is one---and this poem demonstrates this---she has created a mythic land, highly symbolic, not mundane. I think of Eliot's great poem, Ash Wednesday; or some of Mallarme's poems; or Dunsany's tales, which I mentioned above. And near to this land she has created is also the land of questions, and the encroaching silence with which she has had dialogue and which, at the end, she banishes.
This poem contains her usual depths of meanings---which this Poet always reliably and consistently delivers to her readers. But this poem seems, to me, to make the reader work a little harder than usual. This is not a negative criticism: when I first read Stevens, I was told, "He makes you work, but he pays you back." This poem fits that description perfectly. The poem works hard to present its message successfully. It, therefore, expects the reader to work hard, as well, in order to appreciate the activity of cleansing birds, audible stars, and glass stallions. The effort the reader puts forth to interpret this poem is paid back exponentially by the poem's meaning.
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Having posted this, I must return to it with an amendment, as I have not done a complete job; and my mind is still busily trying to process this magnificent poetic accomplishment. I realize, now, that this is a very Dantesque poem, in the way (if I may cite an example) that Eliot's "Hollow Men" is Dantesque. Like The Divine Comedy, both "Hollow Men" and "Dialogue With Silence" create a symbolic geography, or terrain, or even a cosmos---which, although similar to the mundane world we inhabit, is still . . . somehow . . . different. And this difference exists to allow the poem's processes to take place as we watch. Eliot gives us a set of symbols as the coordinates of the strange place he wishes to describe in his poem. Patriciajj gives us an entirely different, but just as active, set of symbols; especially clustered in the stanza that, as I suggest above, is her poem's gravitational center. Like the Comedy, and like the broken jaw of the lost kingdoms of Eliot's Hollow Men, "Dialogue With Silence" is an account of a visit, a pilgrimage, an acquisition of knowledge obtained as she passed through the land of questions, the door of the unmanifest, and then to the place of the cleansing birds and audible stars. In the very best of senses, this poem is very busy; and it will continue generating its effects, its impressions, its meanings to individual readers long after I have gone my way.
Starward
Spot on! Thank you for taking
Spot on! Thank you for taking the time to first read, I mean, really read my reflection, and then walk around in my soul-space in order to perceive with such far-reaching vision. Your eye for detail, deeper meaning and your ability to articulate it with lucid eloquence is a superpower that makes, not only your poetry, but your prose, exceptional.
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I'm deeply humbled and moved that you would share that power through this very insightful analysis. It was just the light I needed.
Thank you for the reply and
Thank you for the reply and the kind words. I sometimes fear that my comments on your poems are too verbose, but the kind of greatness your poems present commands a certain verbosity. In many ways, your postings put me in mind of Vergil's manner of writing his epic: he worked on, and read aloud to friends, whatever section of his epic happened to strike his interest at any given time. You are building an epic cosmology---and your Dialogue with Silence is an intense reminder of that---one part at a time, and whatever part happens to strike your interest. I do not lightly, or frivolusly, compare you to Vergil: I respect your poetic achievement, and his, too much to ever view either one of them lightly or casually. And, like Vergil's poetry, your poems have far more going on in them than would appear to the casual or superficial reader. And, in my comments, I want to explicate that, to the best of my ability. No one will ever have the last word on your poetry except you. But I want to construct, from the sidelines, a coherent, and detailed, analytic that will trace your poetry's multiplex effects on this particular reader. Future scholars may take other approaches to explicate and interpret your work; but I have the privilege of being among the Early Commentors, and, as Samuel French Morse proved with Stevens' poetry, that is a mighty fine group in which to be numbered. Thank you for giving me the opportunity---which I could only read about in regard to Vergil, Stevens, and Eliot---of watching Greatness absolutely equal to theirs assemble itself part by part in front of my very eyes.
Starward
Please never feel you are
Please never feel you are verbose either in poetry or commentary because every word is of great value as encouragement, knowledge, insight and fine art. I am forever and humbly grateful.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Starward