It Seems Really Late

Kill them.

Save them.

Introduce them. 

Evict them.

 

Goddamn Christians have no clue

how to love the wolves. 

 

Lambs are confusing. 

Soft flock stock? Manger decor?

Broiled chops? 

 

Christians should stick to bread and fish. 

Water and wine. Holidays. The world-famous book.

Good, not great. 

 

It seems really late.

 

 

 

 

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I have hitherto admired your

I have hitherto admired your poetry---but not this one.  Is there a reason you feel you need to insult those of us who are believing Christians?  I take it, from this poem, that you do not share our faith:  but if you are not part of it, how can you logically or realistically criticize it?  I, myself, do not understand rocket science, so I cannot logically criticize the process of a launch, even if it yields results with which I disagree.  I have tried to keep this comment within the courtesies of civil discourse, as a demontration of my own faith; I wish a poet of your tremendous talent could have kept this poem more in line with that same civil discourse.


Starward

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Thanks for reading and commenting

This is a first draft I wrote after reading in the news that protections for wolves are being removed. I live in a very Christian state, Idaho, where people just love kiling things. They all claim to be Christians. I don't have much use for them. I'm not Christian. I like the God of Baruch Spinoza. So did Albert Einstein. 


"There is no good writing, only good editing."

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Thank you for the courteous

Thank you for the courteous reply.  I would respond with this suggestion:  the poem, as it reads now, seems to condemn all Christians, rather than the some Christians with whom you disagree.  Would you, as a reader, welcome or applaud a poem that referred, say, to "Goddamn believers in the deism of Spinoza and Einstein?"  Or if it suggested that Spinoza and Einstein should stick to the atheology of their impotent idol and not comment on the Christian belief in which they have no part?  Would a poem like that be fair, or civil, or uplifting?  No more so than a poem that fails with the logical fallacy we all learn in Logic 101, not to judge all by some.
  Again, I am emboldened to offer this response because I have admired your poems in the past, and therefore the poem's attack upon my fellow believers (not some of them, with whom you disagree; but all of them) was particularly hurtful.

Starward

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Thanks

I'll probably do something better with this poem or just junk it. I don't put stock in any religion. Never really have. It all seems like nonsense to me. Spinoza's belief that God is nature and nature and God are everything does make sense to me, so I guess that's the closest I get to believing some sort of religion. I've been in a bad mood lately when it comes to Christians because so many of them support a scumbag like Trump. I wouldn't let him get near any member of my family. 


"There is no good writing, only good editing."

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Thank you for that

Thank you for that explanation, as well.  And I, too, am disappointed, and sometimes angry with, my believing brethren who support that real estate speculator who now occupies the White House.  But those people are a very small minority when compared with  A) all others Christians outside this nation; and  B) all the Christians who have left this world before *that man* was ever heard of.  The early Christians who, in my mind, were better on their worst days than we will ever be on our finest, would have known nothing of that man.  If you poem would specify American Christians, or those Christians who are "trumpeted," (to make a small pun) that might make the poem a little less pejorative toward all other, and especially the Early, Christians.  


Starward

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